- Do you feel like representation is affecting what actually goes on, on set?

Or is this what we're seeing on screen not really moving the needle behind the scenes?

- You know, I'm not sure.

It certainly appears to have more opportunities but I'm not sure if that's born out of a fad or an actual appreciation for the value that representation offers to the narrative landscape.

I think it's harmful that sometimes, Asian Americans are so focused on positive representation, saying like, "Oh, we never have romantic leading men.

Our men are so emasculated", and so what's the answer to have a guy with six pack abs?

Isn't that just sort of like the same thing?

I mean, yes, we need that, but we also need like somebody who doesn't have six pack abs to be worthy of a story as well.

And sometimes I worry that when actors are like, "I refuse to play stereotypical parts.

I refuse to do this.

I'm, you know, only want good representation of Asians", I worry that a statement like that reinforces white supremacy in a way because artists are creative, not reactive.

And if your artistic choices are a reaction to a system that never knew you or understood you in the first place, it only solidifies the concept that however that system portrayed you is inherently shameful.